Comments on: On the Val Kilmer beat: Actor says he’ll be governor — if he runs http://newmexicoindependent.com/17648/kilmer-predicts-he%e2%80%99ll-be-guv-if-he-runs New Mexico news and politics Fri, 02 Sep 2011 18:15:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: JDiehl http://newmexicoindependent.com/17648/kilmer-predicts-he%e2%80%99ll-be-guv-if-he-runs#comment-22832 JDiehl Thu, 19 Feb 2009 18:38:33 +0000 http://newmexicoindependent.com/?p=17648#comment-22832 Holloway,,,,Is it also a lie that when Kilmer went to Iraq to deliver baby food,,,he didn't take the time to visit the Troops ??? Holloway,,,,Is it also a lie that when Kilmer went to Iraq to deliver baby food,,,he didn't take the time to visit the Troops ???

]]> By: JDiehl http://newmexicoindependent.com/17648/kilmer-predicts-he%e2%80%99ll-be-guv-if-he-runs#comment-22833 JDiehl Thu, 19 Feb 2009 18:37:03 +0000 http://newmexicoindependent.com/?p=17648#comment-22833 Holloway,,,,Is it also a lie that when Kilmer went to Iraq to deliver baby food,,,he didn't take the time to visit the Troops ??? Holloway,,,,Is it also a lie that when Kilmer went to Iraq to deliver baby food,,,he didn't take the time to visit the Troops ???

]]> By: JDiehl http://newmexicoindependent.com/17648/kilmer-predicts-he%e2%80%99ll-be-guv-if-he-runs#comment-17719 JDiehl Thu, 19 Feb 2009 12:38:33 +0000 http://newmexicoindependent.com/?p=17648#comment-17719 Holloway,,,,Is it also a lie that when Kilmer went to Iraq to deliver baby food,,,he didn't take the time to visit the Troops ??? Holloway,,,,Is it also a lie that when Kilmer went to Iraq to deliver baby food,,,he didn't take the time to visit the Troops ???

]]> By: JDiehl http://newmexicoindependent.com/17648/kilmer-predicts-he%e2%80%99ll-be-guv-if-he-runs#comment-17720 JDiehl Thu, 19 Feb 2009 12:37:03 +0000 http://newmexicoindependent.com/?p=17648#comment-17720 Holloway,,,,Is it also a lie that when Kilmer went to Iraq to deliver baby food,,,he didn't take the time to visit the Troops ??? Holloway,,,,Is it also a lie that when Kilmer went to Iraq to deliver baby food,,,he didn't take the time to visit the Troops ???

]]> By: JDiehl http://newmexicoindependent.com/17648/kilmer-predicts-he%e2%80%99ll-be-guv-if-he-runs#comment-10198 JDiehl Thu, 19 Feb 2009 11:38:33 +0000 http://newmexicoindependent.com/?p=17648#comment-10198 Holloway,,,,Is it also a lie that when Kilmer went to Iraq to deliver baby food,,,he didn't take the time to visit the Troops ??? Holloway,,,,Is it also a lie that when Kilmer went to Iraq to deliver baby food,,,he didn't take the time to visit the Troops ???

]]> By: JDiehl http://newmexicoindependent.com/17648/kilmer-predicts-he%e2%80%99ll-be-guv-if-he-runs#comment-10199 JDiehl Thu, 19 Feb 2009 11:37:03 +0000 http://newmexicoindependent.com/?p=17648#comment-10199 Holloway,,,,Is it also a lie that when Kilmer went to Iraq to deliver baby food,,,he didn't take the time to visit the Troops ??? Holloway,,,,Is it also a lie that when Kilmer went to Iraq to deliver baby food,,,he didn't take the time to visit the Troops ???

]]> By: JDiehl http://newmexicoindependent.com/17648/kilmer-predicts-he%e2%80%99ll-be-guv-if-he-runs#comment-4149 JDiehl Thu, 19 Feb 2009 10:38:33 +0000 http://newmexicoindependent.com/?p=17648#comment-4149 Holloway,,,,Is it also a lie that when Kilmer went to Iraq to deliver baby food,,,he didn't take the time to visit the Troops ??? Holloway,,,,Is it also a lie that when Kilmer went to Iraq to deliver baby food,,,he didn't take the time to visit the Troops ???

]]> By: JDiehl http://newmexicoindependent.com/17648/kilmer-predicts-he%e2%80%99ll-be-guv-if-he-runs#comment-4147 JDiehl Thu, 19 Feb 2009 10:37:03 +0000 http://newmexicoindependent.com/?p=17648#comment-4147 Holloway,,,,Is it also a lie that when Kilmer went to Iraq to deliver baby food,,,he didn't take the time to visit the Troops ??? Holloway,,,,Is it also a lie that when Kilmer went to Iraq to deliver baby food,,,he didn't take the time to visit the Troops ???

]]> By: MichaelLHolloway http://newmexicoindependent.com/17648/kilmer-predicts-he%e2%80%99ll-be-guv-if-he-runs#comment-4058 MichaelLHolloway Fri, 13 Feb 2009 07:07:23 +0000 http://newmexicoindependent.com/?p=17648#comment-4058 If people think Esquire, or publications/sites like it, are a reputable publication(s), they need to check out other times where the people that write for them have misquoted celebrities, twisted things around, or sometimes downright lied about their subject.<br><br><br><a href="http://www.snopes.com/racial/business/claiborne.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.snopes.com/racial/business/claiborne...</a><br><br><a href="http://www.snopes.com/racial/business/hilfiger.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.snopes.com/racial/business/hilfiger.asp</a><br><br><a href="http://www.snopes.com/radiotv/tv/grouchocigar.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.snopes.com/radiotv/tv/grouchocigar.asp</a><br><br><br>In all three cases and possibly more, quotes were attributed to celebrities that were twisted around or completely false, and some even tried to claim a tape existed of the interview. In the case of fashion designers Liz Claiborne and Tommy Hilfiger, they reportedly went on Oprah and made racist remarks.<br><br><br>The media went wild about these stories...the problem?<br><br>*Both Liz and Tommy NEVER appeared on Oprah prior to these stories being written about them, although Tommy did go on to clear his name at a later date.<br><br>If Esquire and other publications like it have been PROVEN to lie, then why is it so hard for people to believe that Val Kilmer is also a victim here.<br><br>Obviously, Esquire is not going to admit to having lied, and if they have such taped evidence, then why didn't they produce it from the onset? <br><br><br>Cheers, Michael If people think Esquire, or publications/sites like it, are a reputable publication(s), they need to check out other times where the people that write for them have misquoted celebrities, twisted things around, or sometimes downright lied about their subject.

http://www.snopes.com/racial/business/claiborne…

http://www.snopes.com/racial/business/hilfiger.asp

http://www.snopes.com/radiotv/tv/grouchocigar.asp

In all three cases and possibly more, quotes were attributed to celebrities that were twisted around or completely false, and some even tried to claim a tape existed of the interview. In the case of fashion designers Liz Claiborne and Tommy Hilfiger, they reportedly went on Oprah and made racist remarks.

The media went wild about these stories…the problem?

*Both Liz and Tommy NEVER appeared on Oprah prior to these stories being written about them, although Tommy did go on to clear his name at a later date.

If Esquire and other publications like it have been PROVEN to lie, then why is it so hard for people to believe that Val Kilmer is also a victim here.

Obviously, Esquire is not going to admit to having lied, and if they have such taped evidence, then why didn't they produce it from the onset?

Cheers, Michael

]]> By: NavyJAGVet http://newmexicoindependent.com/17648/kilmer-predicts-he%e2%80%99ll-be-guv-if-he-runs#comment-4014 NavyJAGVet Thu, 12 Feb 2009 01:47:07 +0000 http://newmexicoindependent.com/?p=17648#comment-4014 New Mexico voters can assess the character and truthfulness of their potential gubernatorial candidate here: <a href="http://www.military-money-matters.com/val-kilmer.html" rel="nofollow">Val Kilmer Insults Vets</a>. Links from there will take you to Kilmer's response and Esquire's. New Mexico voters can assess the character and truthfulness of their potential gubernatorial candidate here: Val Kilmer Insults Vets. Links from there will take you to Kilmer's response and Esquire's.

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