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	<title>Comments on: Coming to grips with global warming in New Mexico</title>
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		<title>By: writesalot</title>
		<link>http://newmexicoindependent.com/30338/coming-to-grips-with-global-warming-in-new-mexico#comment-23079</link>
		<dc:creator>writesalot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 21:50:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Too little, too late. Time to invest in canned foods, water and water purifiers, and shotguns.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too little, too late. Time to invest in canned foods, water and water purifiers, and shotguns.</p>
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		<title>By: writesalot</title>
		<link>http://newmexicoindependent.com/30338/coming-to-grips-with-global-warming-in-new-mexico#comment-19074</link>
		<dc:creator>writesalot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 16:50:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Too little, too late. Time to invest in canned foods, water and water purifiers, and shotguns.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too little, too late. Time to invest in canned foods, water and water purifiers, and shotguns.</p>
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		<title>By: writesalot</title>
		<link>http://newmexicoindependent.com/30338/coming-to-grips-with-global-warming-in-new-mexico#comment-9946</link>
		<dc:creator>writesalot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 15:50:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Too little, too late. Time to invest in canned foods, water and water purifiers, and shotguns.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too little, too late. Time to invest in canned foods, water and water purifiers, and shotguns.</p>
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		<title>By: writesalot</title>
		<link>http://newmexicoindependent.com/30338/coming-to-grips-with-global-warming-in-new-mexico#comment-7281</link>
		<dc:creator>writesalot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 14:50:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Too little, too late. Time to invest in canned foods, water and water purifiers, and shotguns.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too little, too late. Time to invest in canned foods, water and water purifiers, and shotguns.</p>
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		<title>By: zabjw</title>
		<link>http://newmexicoindependent.com/30338/coming-to-grips-with-global-warming-in-new-mexico#comment-6738</link>
		<dc:creator>zabjw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 17:07:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>YEP    June was just burning up around here  --  If you want to remove us from carbon energy dependence then sell that.  Don&#039;t run it on the back of climate change -- Al Gore has enough money already</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YEP    June was just burning up around here  &#8212;  If you want to remove us from carbon energy dependence then sell that.  Don&#39;t run it on the back of climate change &#8212; Al Gore has enough money already</p>
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		<title>By: chikntheif</title>
		<link>http://newmexicoindependent.com/30338/coming-to-grips-with-global-warming-in-new-mexico#comment-6642</link>
		<dc:creator>chikntheif</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 13:35:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep the sky is falling--the sky is falling--the sky is falling. I&#039;m sooooooo afraid !!! &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We really need to round up all the global warming hoax people and send them to re-education camps and teach them another way to make a living. Its not nice of them to be lying and using scare tactics about global warming when we actually have global cooling. Where do they find these idiots ???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep the sky is falling&#8211;the sky is falling&#8211;the sky is falling. I&#39;m sooooooo afraid !!! </p>
<p>We really need to round up all the global warming hoax people and send them to re-education camps and teach them another way to make a living. Its not nice of them to be lying and using scare tactics about global warming when we actually have global cooling. Where do they find these idiots ???</p>
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		<title>By: RoaldA</title>
		<link>http://newmexicoindependent.com/30338/coming-to-grips-with-global-warming-in-new-mexico#comment-6634</link>
		<dc:creator>RoaldA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 22:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adding further insult to injury, shouldn&#039;t NM Independent readers also ask V. B. Price why the Vermont Governor&#039;s climate science page (  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.vtclimatechange.us/background-science.cfm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.vtclimatechange.us/background-scienc...&lt;/a&gt;  ) is word-for-word identical to Bill Richardson&#039;s (  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nmclimatechange.us/background-science.cfm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.nmclimatechange.us/background-scienc...&lt;/a&gt;  ) and Arkansas&#039; (  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.arclimatechange.us/background-science.cfm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.arclimatechange.us/background-scienc...&lt;/a&gt;  ), and why an Arkansas reporter would write that his Governor&#039;s climate change commission prevented global warming skeptics from presenting their data (  &lt;a href=&quot;http://arkansasnews.com/2009/01/07/global-warming-commission-stifles-debate/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://arkansasnews.com/2009/01/07/global-warmi...&lt;/a&gt;  )?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Rather than resorting to calling skeptics &quot;deniers&quot;, shouldn&#039;t Mr Price explain why Minnesota would thank the Center for Climate Strategies (CSS -  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mnclimatechange.us/index.cfm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.mnclimatechange.us/index.cfm&lt;/a&gt;  ) for helping them to prepare their identical climate change commission (  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mnclimatechange.us/background-science.cfm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.mnclimatechange.us/background-scienc...&lt;/a&gt;  ), and why former Kansas Governor Sebelius would note that Herb and Marion Sandler and their Sandler Family Foundation fund CCS (ninth paragraph  &lt;a href=&quot;http://kansas.sierraclub.org/Wind/GovernorVeto.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://kansas.sierraclub.org/Wind/GovernorVeto.htm&lt;/a&gt;  )? That&#039;s the same Sandlers who are under investigation by the Justice Department and the SEC for predatory lending practices and fraudulent representations to investors before their bank, Golden West Financial, was sold to Wachovia (  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/20081120/report-regulators-probing-wachovia.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/20081120/report...&lt;/a&gt;  ), the same Sandlers who are now involved in questionable money dealings with ACORN ( &lt;a href=&quot;http://spectator.org/blog/2009/06/05/toxic-mortgage-tycoons-herb-ma&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://spectator.org/blog/2009/06/05/toxic-mort...&lt;/a&gt;  ).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Or is Mr Price in denial that global warming legislation can&#039;t stand on its own without smearing and censoring skeptics, or without the big bucks of agenda-driven funding sources?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adding further insult to injury, shouldn&#39;t NM Independent readers also ask V. B. Price why the Vermont Governor&#39;s climate science page (  <a href="http://www.vtclimatechange.us/background-science.cfm" rel="nofollow">http://www.vtclimatechange.us/background-scienc&#8230;</a>  ) is word-for-word identical to Bill Richardson&#39;s (  <a href="http://www.nmclimatechange.us/background-science.cfm" rel="nofollow">http://www.nmclimatechange.us/background-scienc&#8230;</a>  ) and Arkansas&#39; (  <a href="http://www.arclimatechange.us/background-science.cfm" rel="nofollow">http://www.arclimatechange.us/background-scienc&#8230;</a>  ), and why an Arkansas reporter would write that his Governor&#39;s climate change commission prevented global warming skeptics from presenting their data (  <a href="http://arkansasnews.com/2009/01/07/global-warming-commission-stifles-debate/" rel="nofollow">http://arkansasnews.com/2009/01/07/global-warmi&#8230;</a>  )?</p>
<p>Rather than resorting to calling skeptics &#8220;deniers&#8221;, shouldn&#39;t Mr Price explain why Minnesota would thank the Center for Climate Strategies (CSS &#8211;  <a href="http://www.mnclimatechange.us/index.cfm" rel="nofollow">http://www.mnclimatechange.us/index.cfm</a>  ) for helping them to prepare their identical climate change commission (  <a href="http://www.mnclimatechange.us/background-science.cfm" rel="nofollow">http://www.mnclimatechange.us/background-scienc&#8230;</a>  ), and why former Kansas Governor Sebelius would note that Herb and Marion Sandler and their Sandler Family Foundation fund CCS (ninth paragraph  <a href="http://kansas.sierraclub.org/Wind/GovernorVeto.htm" rel="nofollow">http://kansas.sierraclub.org/Wind/GovernorVeto.htm</a>  )? That&#39;s the same Sandlers who are under investigation by the Justice Department and the SEC for predatory lending practices and fraudulent representations to investors before their bank, Golden West Financial, was sold to Wachovia (  <a href="http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/20081120/report-regulators-probing-wachovia.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/20081120/report&#8230;</a>  ), the same Sandlers who are now involved in questionable money dealings with ACORN ( <a href="http://spectator.org/blog/2009/06/05/toxic-mortgage-tycoons-herb-ma" rel="nofollow">http://spectator.org/blog/2009/06/05/toxic-mort&#8230;</a>  ).</p>
<p>Or is Mr Price in denial that global warming legislation can&#39;t stand on its own without smearing and censoring skeptics, or without the big bucks of agenda-driven funding sources?</p>
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		<title>By: RoaldA</title>
		<link>http://newmexicoindependent.com/30338/coming-to-grips-with-global-warming-in-new-mexico#comment-6633</link>
		<dc:creator>RoaldA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 21:26:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Predictably, global warming believers such as V. B. Price continually weaken their position by choosing to label skeptic scientists as &quot;deniers&quot;, instead of taking the easier and more effective option of disproving the skeptics&#039; scientific conclusions.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This is nothing more than an attempt to distract the general public from the &quot;800lb gorilla in the room&quot;:  with all their claims of the global warming debate being settled, global warming believers refuse to answer  &quot;when, where, who, how, why&quot; about the debate.  If it is truly over, WHEN exactly did it occur, WHERE was it, WHO attended, HOW were expert scientists offering conclusions contradictory to IPCC reports addressed and disproved beyond a shadow of a doubt, and is there any reason WHY the “Climate Change Reconsidered: The 2009 Report of the NONgovernmental International Panel on Climate Change&quot; (NIPCC -  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nipccreport.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.nipccreport.org/&lt;/a&gt;  ), a collection of peer-reviewed published scientific papers, should not be considered as a second opinion to the IPCC reports?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You&#039;d think that with all their evidence of skeptic scientists&#039; reports being flimsy and easily debunked fabrications written by incompetent bunglers bought-and-paid-for by big oil / coal CEOs, they would have gotten such a headline splashed across the nation&#039;s largest media outlets already, erasing all further opposition by politicians and shame-faced deniers.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;When they continually fail to show where the skeptics are wrong for all to see, it looks like a Watergate-style cover up that they can&#039;t actually defeat the skeptics purely on the science. When the general public fully understands this, the global warming crisis will collapse like a house of cards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Predictably, global warming believers such as V. B. Price continually weaken their position by choosing to label skeptic scientists as &#8220;deniers&#8221;, instead of taking the easier and more effective option of disproving the skeptics&#39; scientific conclusions.</p>
<p>This is nothing more than an attempt to distract the general public from the &#8220;800lb gorilla in the room&#8221;:  with all their claims of the global warming debate being settled, global warming believers refuse to answer  &#8220;when, where, who, how, why&#8221; about the debate.  If it is truly over, WHEN exactly did it occur, WHERE was it, WHO attended, HOW were expert scientists offering conclusions contradictory to IPCC reports addressed and disproved beyond a shadow of a doubt, and is there any reason WHY the “Climate Change Reconsidered: The 2009 Report of the NONgovernmental International Panel on Climate Change&#8221; (NIPCC &#8211;  <a href="http://www.nipccreport.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.nipccreport.org/</a>  ), a collection of peer-reviewed published scientific papers, should not be considered as a second opinion to the IPCC reports?</p>
<p>You&#39;d think that with all their evidence of skeptic scientists&#39; reports being flimsy and easily debunked fabrications written by incompetent bunglers bought-and-paid-for by big oil / coal CEOs, they would have gotten such a headline splashed across the nation&#39;s largest media outlets already, erasing all further opposition by politicians and shame-faced deniers.</p>
<p>When they continually fail to show where the skeptics are wrong for all to see, it looks like a Watergate-style cover up that they can&#39;t actually defeat the skeptics purely on the science. When the general public fully understands this, the global warming crisis will collapse like a house of cards.</p>
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		<title>By: RevAGW</title>
		<link>http://newmexicoindependent.com/30338/coming-to-grips-with-global-warming-in-new-mexico#comment-6625</link>
		<dc:creator>RevAGW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 14:00:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scaring people into efficiency will never happen. You must sell efficiency. Put your unbelievable computer model religion away and invent something... and sell it. Otherwise you are burning pixels on millions of computers adding to the problem you believe in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scaring people into efficiency will never happen. You must sell efficiency. Put your unbelievable computer model religion away and invent something&#8230; and sell it. Otherwise you are burning pixels on millions of computers adding to the problem you believe in.</p>
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