Comments on: Dustup over Taos hotelier goes national http://newmexicoindependent.com/40414/dustup-over-taos-hotelier-goes-national New Mexico news and politics Fri, 02 Sep 2011 18:15:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: start2listen http://newmexicoindependent.com/40414/dustup-over-taos-hotelier-goes-national#comment-22865 start2listen Wed, 04 Nov 2009 22:52:55 +0000 http://newmexicoindependent.com/?p=40414#comment-22865 There are stories where people in the West shoot people for snoring. So with a touchy population existing in the West how can any miss that asking someone to change their name could not be anything other than offensive? Well, the Texan born in the Eastern State of Virginia will ask you to believe otherwise, that it's the way its done as far as he concerned, although he admits he's never done this before.<br><br>A real smart aleck of the West, and there's no shortage of them, who'd have answered the request of Larry Whitten to use Anglicized names rather than the Spanish names given to them by their ancestors this way:<br><br>I don't want you using that Spanish name. Get a Anglicized name my customers can say. Sure , okay. Hey I got one for you. Yeah what is it? Smith and Wesson. BANG.<br><br>And because that is the way Westerners think, I stay away from rattling their cages too much. Larry Whitten has to remember that even as a Marine, the Geneva convention allowed him what? "His name, rank, and serial number". Larry wasn't acting civilized even by his own stated standards of being a Marine. There are stories where people in the West shoot people for snoring. So with a touchy population existing in the West how can any miss that asking someone to change their name could not be anything other than offensive? Well, the Texan born in the Eastern State of Virginia will ask you to believe otherwise, that it's the way its done as far as he concerned, although he admits he's never done this before.

A real smart aleck of the West, and there's no shortage of them, who'd have answered the request of Larry Whitten to use Anglicized names rather than the Spanish names given to them by their ancestors this way:

I don't want you using that Spanish name. Get a Anglicized name my customers can say. Sure , okay. Hey I got one for you. Yeah what is it? Smith and Wesson. BANG.

And because that is the way Westerners think, I stay away from rattling their cages too much. Larry Whitten has to remember that even as a Marine, the Geneva convention allowed him what? “His name, rank, and serial number”. Larry wasn't acting civilized even by his own stated standards of being a Marine.

]]> By: start2listen http://newmexicoindependent.com/40414/dustup-over-taos-hotelier-goes-national#comment-18982 start2listen Wed, 04 Nov 2009 16:52:55 +0000 http://newmexicoindependent.com/?p=40414#comment-18982 There are stories where people in the West shoot people for snoring. So with a touchy population existing in the West how can any miss that asking someone to change their name could not be anything other than offensive? Well, the Texan born in the Eastern State of Virginia will ask you to believe otherwise, that it's the way its done as far as he concerned, although he admits he's never done this before.<br><br>A real smart aleck of the West, and there's no shortage of them, who'd have answered the request of Larry Whitten to use Anglicized names rather than the Spanish names given to them by their ancestors this way:<br><br>I don't want you using that Spanish name. Get a Anglicized name my customers can say. Sure , okay. Hey I got one for you. Yeah what is it? Smith and Wesson. BANG.<br><br>And because that is the way Westerners think, I stay away from rattling their cages too much. Larry Whitten has to remember that even as a Marine, the Geneva convention allowed him what? "His name, rank, and serial number". Larry wasn't acting civilized even by his own stated standards of being a Marine. There are stories where people in the West shoot people for snoring. So with a touchy population existing in the West how can any miss that asking someone to change their name could not be anything other than offensive? Well, the Texan born in the Eastern State of Virginia will ask you to believe otherwise, that it's the way its done as far as he concerned, although he admits he's never done this before.

A real smart aleck of the West, and there's no shortage of them, who'd have answered the request of Larry Whitten to use Anglicized names rather than the Spanish names given to them by their ancestors this way:

I don't want you using that Spanish name. Get a Anglicized name my customers can say. Sure , okay. Hey I got one for you. Yeah what is it? Smith and Wesson. BANG.

And because that is the way Westerners think, I stay away from rattling their cages too much. Larry Whitten has to remember that even as a Marine, the Geneva convention allowed him what? “His name, rank, and serial number”. Larry wasn't acting civilized even by his own stated standards of being a Marine.

]]> By: start2listen http://newmexicoindependent.com/40414/dustup-over-taos-hotelier-goes-national#comment-12261 start2listen Wed, 04 Nov 2009 15:52:55 +0000 http://newmexicoindependent.com/?p=40414#comment-12261 There are stories where people in the West shoot people for snoring. So with a touchy population existing in the West how can any miss that asking someone to change their name could not be anything other than offensive? Well, the Texan born in the Eastern State of Virginia will ask you to believe otherwise, that it's the way its done as far as he concerned, although he admits he's never done this before.<br><br>A real smart aleck of the West, and there's no shortage of them, who'd have answered the request of Larry Whitten to use Anglicized names rather than the Spanish names given to them by their ancestors this way:<br><br>I don't want you using that Spanish name. Get a Anglicized name my customers can say. Sure , okay. Hey I got one for you. Yeah what is it? Smith and Wesson. BANG.<br><br>And because that is the way Westerners think, I stay away from rattling their cages too much. Larry Whitten has to remember that even as a Marine, the Geneva convention allowed him what? "His name, rank, and serial number". Larry wasn't acting civilized even by his own stated standards of being a Marine. There are stories where people in the West shoot people for snoring. So with a touchy population existing in the West how can any miss that asking someone to change their name could not be anything other than offensive? Well, the Texan born in the Eastern State of Virginia will ask you to believe otherwise, that it's the way its done as far as he concerned, although he admits he's never done this before.

A real smart aleck of the West, and there's no shortage of them, who'd have answered the request of Larry Whitten to use Anglicized names rather than the Spanish names given to them by their ancestors this way:

I don't want you using that Spanish name. Get a Anglicized name my customers can say. Sure , okay. Hey I got one for you. Yeah what is it? Smith and Wesson. BANG.

And because that is the way Westerners think, I stay away from rattling their cages too much. Larry Whitten has to remember that even as a Marine, the Geneva convention allowed him what? “His name, rank, and serial number”. Larry wasn't acting civilized even by his own stated standards of being a Marine.

]]> By: Gnarlodious http://newmexicoindependent.com/40414/dustup-over-taos-hotelier-goes-national#comment-12016 Gnarlodious Wed, 28 Oct 2009 13:49:38 +0000 http://newmexicoindependent.com/?p=40414#comment-12016 Well it's obvious, if you were an Indian working for some American corporation at the call center you would call yourself Patty instead of Padma. So this ex-Marine sees Taos as being colonized by himself. The foreigner works for him, so his name should be called Martin rather than Marteen. The 3rd world in being conquered by Texas. Just like Iraq. Well it's obvious, if you were an Indian working for some American corporation at the call center you would call yourself Patty instead of Padma. So this ex-Marine sees Taos as being colonized by himself. The foreigner works for him, so his name should be called Martin rather than Marteen. The 3rd world in being conquered by Texas. Just like Iraq.

]]> By: Harold Hill http://newmexicoindependent.com/40414/dustup-over-taos-hotelier-goes-national#comment-12012 Harold Hill Wed, 28 Oct 2009 12:50:02 +0000 http://newmexicoindependent.com/?p=40414#comment-12012 Wouldn't have to go to the trouble and expense if Gov. Rick Perry and his supporters manage to get Texas to secede from the union - help support that effort <a href="http://www.texassecede.com/faq.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.texassecede.com/faq.htm</a> Wouldn't have to go to the trouble and expense if Gov. Rick Perry and his supporters manage to get Texas to secede from the union – help support that effort http://www.texassecede.com/faq.htm

]]> By: Aliandra http://newmexicoindependent.com/40414/dustup-over-taos-hotelier-goes-national#comment-11985 Aliandra Tue, 27 Oct 2009 18:57:15 +0000 http://newmexicoindependent.com/?p=40414#comment-11985 This is not symptomatic of Texans. This is symptomatic of systematic and formal denial of a racist past by governments, which creates a context where honest discussion of racism is avoided. The result is overt controversies that fill a void created by ineffectual appreciation of our collective past. This is what happens when public policy is to educate young and old alike with a revisionist history. We are deprived of the benefits of lessons learned, and hence, we are doomed to repeat them.<br><br>Per my recollection it has been less than 10 years since some decision in Taos resulted in the removal of a marker on the plaza there documented the execution of Indian prisoners after Spanish conquistadors forcible recaptured what is now New Mexico. Santa Fe's state-run Palace of the Governors, along with the City of Santa Fe, which controls the plaza where racist attacks against indigenous people are memorialized on an obelisk, refuse to acknowledge the execution of 70 prisoners in Santa Fe on the first day Europeans returned to the Plaza in what is celebrated in publicly funded events as a "peaceful reconquest."<br><br>When public officials of European lineage in the South refuse to publicly acknowledge atrocities committed during the more recent Civil Rights conflict, the result can be that people of all races tend to discriminate in conversation and in business practices against the latest round of immigrants -- Mexican workers. Why? Because the public loses recollection of the infectious nature of social hatreds. Unable to find with their neighbors honest resolution of old scores, and deprived of an accurate historical record from which to develop accurate analysis of problematic social behavior, even formerly persecuted groups can begin to target "outsiders" with racially motivated invectives. <br><br> Likewise in New Mexico, centuries of simmering hatred among people of diverse ethnic backgrounds has fostered an environment where racism is not acknowledged until it boils over, then often it is only discussed in terms that blame "outsiders" for acute symptoms of the community's long-term infection. This is not symptomatic of Texans. This is symptomatic of systematic and formal denial of a racist past by governments, which creates a context where honest discussion of racism is avoided. The result is overt controversies that fill a void created by ineffectual appreciation of our collective past. This is what happens when public policy is to educate young and old alike with a revisionist history. We are deprived of the benefits of lessons learned, and hence, we are doomed to repeat them.

Per my recollection it has been less than 10 years since some decision in Taos resulted in the removal of a marker on the plaza there documented the execution of Indian prisoners after Spanish conquistadors forcible recaptured what is now New Mexico. Santa Fe's state-run Palace of the Governors, along with the City of Santa Fe, which controls the plaza where racist attacks against indigenous people are memorialized on an obelisk, refuse to acknowledge the execution of 70 prisoners in Santa Fe on the first day Europeans returned to the Plaza in what is celebrated in publicly funded events as a “peaceful reconquest.”

When public officials of European lineage in the South refuse to publicly acknowledge atrocities committed during the more recent Civil Rights conflict, the result can be that people of all races tend to discriminate in conversation and in business practices against the latest round of immigrants — Mexican workers. Why? Because the public loses recollection of the infectious nature of social hatreds. Unable to find with their neighbors honest resolution of old scores, and deprived of an accurate historical record from which to develop accurate analysis of problematic social behavior, even formerly persecuted groups can begin to target “outsiders” with racially motivated invectives.

Likewise in New Mexico, centuries of simmering hatred among people of diverse ethnic backgrounds has fostered an environment where racism is not acknowledged until it boils over, then often it is only discussed in terms that blame “outsiders” for acute symptoms of the community's long-term infection.

]]> By: gshurley http://newmexicoindependent.com/40414/dustup-over-taos-hotelier-goes-national#comment-11978 gshurley Tue, 27 Oct 2009 17:45:58 +0000 http://newmexicoindependent.com/?p=40414#comment-11978 Too bad we can't put a wall up around Texas and not let any more ignorant Texans into the rest of the country. Too bad we can't put a wall up around Texas and not let any more ignorant Texans into the rest of the country.

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