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		<title>By: Dr.Chronic</title>
		<link>http://newmexicoindependent.com/41438/trips-morning-reading-11#comment-23670</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr.Chronic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:25:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indeed, the the investigation is a delicate matter. The military still tests or rather admisters the malaria drug Larium also known as Mefloquine. Do you think this could play a role in Hamal&#039;s actions? A recent memo from the Army Surgeon General states that,&quot;Mefloquine should not be given to Soldiers with recent history of Traumatic Brain Injury&quot;(**1), but one of the guidelines of the medication also indicates that it should not be admistered to people suffering from mental problems. Isn&#039;t mefloquine a pesticide as well? Either way, government investigators should also take this into consideration.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What if Hamal was going through some kind of mental moral crisis involving patients&#039; objection to war because it looks like counseling soldiers on moral topics like concious objecting is either a grey area or a very limiting legal one?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In the military, &quot;if the objection is to a particular war because one believes it to be illegal or unjust, this is not considered justification for conscientious objector status&quot;.&lt;br&gt;Source: &lt;a href=&quot;http://docs.google.com/gview?a=v&amp;q=cache:dm6SvuyvZHQJ:www.bordeninstitute.army.mil/published_volumes/military_psychiatry/mpch7.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://docs.google.com/gview?a=v&amp;q=cache:dm6Svu...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Source:http://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/content/abstract/158/7/1010&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Lt. Col. Dave Grossman writes in his book On Killing that even in World War II, &quot;less than 1 percent of the US Air Force figher pilots accounted for 30 to 40 percent of all enemy aircraft destroyed in the air.&quot; More on the morality of killing in war with an interview( &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pbs.org/pov/soldiersofconscience/special_kilner.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.pbs.org/pov/soldiersofconscience/spe...&lt;/a&gt;) with Lt. Col. Pete Kilner. On a side not, the book On Killing does not mention anything about Larum, but he does touch a bit on self medication within the military.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Also, here is an interview with an Iraq veteran at Fort Hood in regards to the shootings. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.democracynow.org/2009/11/9/when_the_war_comes_homes_iraq&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.democracynow.org/2009/11/9/when_the_...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Source for (1)&lt;br&gt;General info on the Meflo&lt;br&gt;Contrary to the edit &quot;Mefloquine is no longer the drug of choice to treat malaria &quot;, it&#039;s still being tested in human trials within the US military.&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pdhealth.mil/downloads/DASG_Memorandum.pdf%22%3EArmy&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.pdhealth.mil/downloads/DASG_Memorand...&lt;/a&gt; Surgeon General memo&lt;br&gt;The memo doesn&#039;t state that it was passed onto Fort Hood, TX, but I&#039;m guessing that medicine usually comes with instructions, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed, the the investigation is a delicate matter. The military still tests or rather admisters the malaria drug Larium also known as Mefloquine. Do you think this could play a role in Hamal&#39;s actions? A recent memo from the Army Surgeon General states that,&#8221;Mefloquine should not be given to Soldiers with recent history of Traumatic Brain Injury&#8221;(**1), but one of the guidelines of the medication also indicates that it should not be admistered to people suffering from mental problems. Isn&#39;t mefloquine a pesticide as well? Either way, government investigators should also take this into consideration.</p>
<p>What if Hamal was going through some kind of mental moral crisis involving patients&#39; objection to war because it looks like counseling soldiers on moral topics like concious objecting is either a grey area or a very limiting legal one?</p>
<p>In the military, &#8220;if the objection is to a particular war because one believes it to be illegal or unjust, this is not considered justification for conscientious objector status&#8221;.<br />Source: <a href="http://docs.google.com/gview?a=v&#038;q=cache:dm6SvuyvZHQJ:www.bordeninstitute.army.mil/published_volumes/military_psychiatry/mpch7.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://docs.google.com/gview?a=v&#038;q=cache:dm6Svu&#8230;</a></p>
<p>Source:<a href="http://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/content/abstract/158/7/1010" rel="nofollow">http://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/content/abstract/158/7/1010</a></p>
<p>Lt. Col. Dave Grossman writes in his book On Killing that even in World War II, &#8220;less than 1 percent of the US Air Force figher pilots accounted for 30 to 40 percent of all enemy aircraft destroyed in the air.&#8221; More on the morality of killing in war with an interview( <a href="http://www.pbs.org/pov/soldiersofconscience/special_kilner.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.pbs.org/pov/soldiersofconscience/spe&#8230;</a>) with Lt. Col. Pete Kilner. On a side not, the book On Killing does not mention anything about Larum, but he does touch a bit on self medication within the military.</p>
<p>Also, here is an interview with an Iraq veteran at Fort Hood in regards to the shootings. <a href="http://www.democracynow.org/2009/11/9/when_the_war_comes_homes_iraq" rel="nofollow">http://www.democracynow.org/2009/11/9/when_the_&#8230;</a></p>
<p>Source for (1)<br />General info on the Meflo<br />Contrary to the edit &#8220;Mefloquine is no longer the drug of choice to treat malaria &#8220;, it&#39;s still being tested in human trials within the US military.<br /><a href="http://www.pdhealth.mil/downloads/DASG_Memorandum.pdf%22%3EArmy" rel="nofollow">http://www.pdhealth.mil/downloads/DASG_Memorand&#8230;</a> Surgeon General memo<br />The memo doesn&#39;t state that it was passed onto Fort Hood, TX, but I&#39;m guessing that medicine usually comes with instructions, right?</p>
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		<title>By: Dr.Chronic</title>
		<link>http://newmexicoindependent.com/41438/trips-morning-reading-11#comment-18519</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr.Chronic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 10:25:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indeed, the the investigation is a delicate matter. The military still tests or rather admisters the malaria drug Larium also known as Mefloquine. Do you think this could play a role in Hamal&#039;s actions? A recent memo from the Army Surgeon General states that,&quot;Mefloquine should not be given to Soldiers with recent history of Traumatic Brain Injury&quot;(**1), but one of the guidelines of the medication also indicates that it should not be admistered to people suffering from mental problems. Isn&#039;t mefloquine a pesticide as well? Either way, government investigators should also take this into consideration.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What if Hamal was going through some kind of mental moral crisis involving patients&#039; objection to war because it looks like counseling soldiers on moral topics like concious objecting is either a grey area or a very limiting legal one?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In the military, &quot;if the objection is to a particular war because one believes it to be illegal or unjust, this is not considered justification for conscientious objector status&quot;.&lt;br&gt;Source: &lt;a href=&quot;http://docs.google.com/gview?a=v&amp;q=cache:dm6SvuyvZHQJ:www.bordeninstitute.army.mil/published_volumes/military_psychiatry/mpch7.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://docs.google.com/gview?a=v&amp;q=cache:dm6Svu...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Source:http://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/content/abstract/158/7/1010&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Lt. Col. Dave Grossman writes in his book On Killing that even in World War II, &quot;less than 1 percent of the US Air Force figher pilots accounted for 30 to 40 percent of all enemy aircraft destroyed in the air.&quot; More on the morality of killing in war with an interview( &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pbs.org/pov/soldiersofconscience/special_kilner.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.pbs.org/pov/soldiersofconscience/spe...&lt;/a&gt;) with Lt. Col. Pete Kilner. On a side not, the book On Killing does not mention anything about Larum, but he does touch a bit on self medication within the military.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Also, here is an interview with an Iraq veteran at Fort Hood in regards to the shootings. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.democracynow.org/2009/11/9/when_the_war_comes_homes_iraq&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.democracynow.org/2009/11/9/when_the_...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Source for (1)&lt;br&gt;General info on the Meflo&lt;br&gt;Contrary to the edit &quot;Mefloquine is no longer the drug of choice to treat malaria &quot;, it&#039;s still being tested in human trials within the US military.&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pdhealth.mil/downloads/DASG_Memorandum.pdf%22%3EArmy&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.pdhealth.mil/downloads/DASG_Memorand...&lt;/a&gt; Surgeon General memo&lt;br&gt;The memo doesn&#039;t state that it was passed onto Fort Hood, TX, but I&#039;m guessing that medicine usually comes with instructions, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed, the the investigation is a delicate matter. The military still tests or rather admisters the malaria drug Larium also known as Mefloquine. Do you think this could play a role in Hamal&#39;s actions? A recent memo from the Army Surgeon General states that,&#8221;Mefloquine should not be given to Soldiers with recent history of Traumatic Brain Injury&#8221;(**1), but one of the guidelines of the medication also indicates that it should not be admistered to people suffering from mental problems. Isn&#39;t mefloquine a pesticide as well? Either way, government investigators should also take this into consideration.</p>
<p>What if Hamal was going through some kind of mental moral crisis involving patients&#39; objection to war because it looks like counseling soldiers on moral topics like concious objecting is either a grey area or a very limiting legal one?</p>
<p>In the military, &#8220;if the objection is to a particular war because one believes it to be illegal or unjust, this is not considered justification for conscientious objector status&#8221;.<br />Source: <a href="http://docs.google.com/gview?a=v&#038;q=cache:dm6SvuyvZHQJ:www.bordeninstitute.army.mil/published_volumes/military_psychiatry/mpch7.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://docs.google.com/gview?a=v&#038;q=cache:dm6Svu&#8230;</a></p>
<p>Source:<a href="http://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/content/abstract/158/7/1010" rel="nofollow">http://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/content/abstract/158/7/1010</a></p>
<p>Lt. Col. Dave Grossman writes in his book On Killing that even in World War II, &#8220;less than 1 percent of the US Air Force figher pilots accounted for 30 to 40 percent of all enemy aircraft destroyed in the air.&#8221; More on the morality of killing in war with an interview( <a href="http://www.pbs.org/pov/soldiersofconscience/special_kilner.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.pbs.org/pov/soldiersofconscience/spe&#8230;</a>) with Lt. Col. Pete Kilner. On a side not, the book On Killing does not mention anything about Larum, but he does touch a bit on self medication within the military.</p>
<p>Also, here is an interview with an Iraq veteran at Fort Hood in regards to the shootings. <a href="http://www.democracynow.org/2009/11/9/when_the_war_comes_homes_iraq" rel="nofollow">http://www.democracynow.org/2009/11/9/when_the_&#8230;</a></p>
<p>Source for (1)<br />General info on the Meflo<br />Contrary to the edit &#8220;Mefloquine is no longer the drug of choice to treat malaria &#8220;, it&#39;s still being tested in human trials within the US military.<br /><a href="http://www.pdhealth.mil/downloads/DASG_Memorandum.pdf%22%3EArmy" rel="nofollow">http://www.pdhealth.mil/downloads/DASG_Memorand&#8230;</a> Surgeon General memo<br />The memo doesn&#39;t state that it was passed onto Fort Hood, TX, but I&#39;m guessing that medicine usually comes with instructions, right?</p>
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		<title>By: Dr.Chronic</title>
		<link>http://newmexicoindependent.com/41438/trips-morning-reading-11#comment-12475</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr.Chronic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 09:25:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indeed, the the investigation is a delicate matter. The military still tests or rather admisters the malaria drug Larium also known as Mefloquine. Do you think this could play a role in Hamal&#039;s actions? A recent memo from the Army Surgeon General states that,&quot;Mefloquine should not be given to Soldiers with recent history of Traumatic Brain Injury&quot;(**1), but one of the guidelines of the medication also indicates that it should not be admistered to people suffering from mental problems. Isn&#039;t mefloquine a pesticide as well? Either way, government investigators should also take this into consideration.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What if Hamal was going through some kind of mental moral crisis involving patients&#039; objection to war because it looks like counseling soldiers on moral topics like concious objecting is either a grey area or a very limiting legal one?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In the military, &quot;if the objection is to a particular war because one believes it to be illegal or unjust, this is not considered justification for conscientious objector status&quot;.&lt;br&gt;Source&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Source&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Lt. Col. Dave Grossman writes in his book On Killing that even in World War II, &quot;less than 1 percent of the US Air Force figher pilots accounted for 30 to 40 percent of all enemy aircraft destroyed in the air.&quot; More on the morality of killing in war with an interviewp with Lt. Col. Pete Kilner. On a side not, the book On Killing does not mention anything about Larum, but he does touch a bit on self medication within the military.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Also, here is an interview with an Iraq veteran at Fort Hood in regards to the shootings.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Source for (1)&lt;br&gt;General info on the Meflo&lt;br&gt;Contrary to the edit &quot;Mefloquine is no longer the drug of choice to treat malaria &quot;, it&#039;s still being tested in human trials within the US military.&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pdhealth.mil/downloads/DASG_Memorandum.pdf%22%3EArmy&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.pdhealth.mil/downloads/DASG_Memorand...&lt;/a&gt; Surgeon General memo&lt;br&gt;The memo doesn&#039;t state that it was passed onto Fort Hood, TX, but I&#039;m guessing that medicine usually comes with instructions, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed, the the investigation is a delicate matter. The military still tests or rather admisters the malaria drug Larium also known as Mefloquine. Do you think this could play a role in Hamal&#39;s actions? A recent memo from the Army Surgeon General states that,&#8221;Mefloquine should not be given to Soldiers with recent history of Traumatic Brain Injury&#8221;(**1), but one of the guidelines of the medication also indicates that it should not be admistered to people suffering from mental problems. Isn&#39;t mefloquine a pesticide as well? Either way, government investigators should also take this into consideration.</p>
<p>What if Hamal was going through some kind of mental moral crisis involving patients&#39; objection to war because it looks like counseling soldiers on moral topics like concious objecting is either a grey area or a very limiting legal one?</p>
<p>In the military, &#8220;if the objection is to a particular war because one believes it to be illegal or unjust, this is not considered justification for conscientious objector status&#8221;.<br />Source</p>
<p>Source</p>
<p>Lt. Col. Dave Grossman writes in his book On Killing that even in World War II, &#8220;less than 1 percent of the US Air Force figher pilots accounted for 30 to 40 percent of all enemy aircraft destroyed in the air.&#8221; More on the morality of killing in war with an interviewp with Lt. Col. Pete Kilner. On a side not, the book On Killing does not mention anything about Larum, but he does touch a bit on self medication within the military.</p>
<p>Also, here is an interview with an Iraq veteran at Fort Hood in regards to the shootings.</p>
<p>Source for (1)<br />General info on the Meflo<br />Contrary to the edit &#8220;Mefloquine is no longer the drug of choice to treat malaria &#8220;, it&#39;s still being tested in human trials within the US military.<br /><a href="http://www.pdhealth.mil/downloads/DASG_Memorandum.pdf%22%3EArmy" rel="nofollow">http://www.pdhealth.mil/downloads/DASG_Memorand&#8230;</a> Surgeon General memo<br />The memo doesn&#39;t state that it was passed onto Fort Hood, TX, but I&#39;m guessing that medicine usually comes with instructions, right?</p>
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