Comments on: Ortiz y Pino says progressives need to assert themselves http://newmexicoindependent.com/43395/ortiz-y-pino-says-progressives-need-to-assert-themselves New Mexico news and politics Fri, 02 Sep 2011 18:15:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: new_mexican http://newmexicoindependent.com/43395/ortiz-y-pino-says-progressives-need-to-assert-themselves#comment-21795 new_mexican Wed, 23 Dec 2009 05:11:49 +0000 http://newmexicoindependent.com/?p=43395#comment-21795 I agre with Gimmieamilk. I think that when Democrats are in power they have to move to a position a bit left of Center. Ortiz y Pino, by this article, I think is way to far to the left for my taste.. I agre with Gimmieamilk. I think that when Democrats are in power they have to move to a position a bit left of Center. Ortiz y Pino, by this article, I think is way to far to the left for my taste..

]]> By: Phoebe http://newmexicoindependent.com/43395/ortiz-y-pino-says-progressives-need-to-assert-themselves#comment-21794 Phoebe Wed, 23 Dec 2009 04:04:46 +0000 http://newmexicoindependent.com/?p=43395#comment-21794 Perhaps it was an overreaction but I was very disappointed when the chairman of the Santa Fe County Democratic Party was quoted as having said: “There are some people who surprise me with - I almost want to call it their ’star-struck’ approach to this campaign. They were star-struck by Obama and they’re star-struck by Kokesh.” <br>I was in fact furious that after a lot of us worked long and hard to get out the vote, apparently because we were foolish enough to want to see Obama and other Democratic candidates elected to office, Ellenberg had lumped 'some people' like myself in with the likes of the cult followers of Kokesh. <br>If this were a singular example of how the good old boys who run the party treat the 'progressives' who get in their way this comment might have been easier to shrug off, but it isn't and wasn't. Perhaps it was an overreaction but I was very disappointed when the chairman of the Santa Fe County Democratic Party was quoted as having said: “There are some people who surprise me with – I almost want to call it their ’star-struck’ approach to this campaign. They were star-struck by Obama and they’re star-struck by Kokesh.”
I was in fact furious that after a lot of us worked long and hard to get out the vote, apparently because we were foolish enough to want to see Obama and other Democratic candidates elected to office, Ellenberg had lumped 'some people' like myself in with the likes of the cult followers of Kokesh.
If this were a singular example of how the good old boys who run the party treat the 'progressives' who get in their way this comment might have been easier to shrug off, but it isn't and wasn't.

]]> By: GimmieAMilk http://newmexicoindependent.com/43395/ortiz-y-pino-says-progressives-need-to-assert-themselves#comment-21796 GimmieAMilk Wed, 23 Dec 2009 02:11:25 +0000 http://newmexicoindependent.com/?p=43395#comment-21796 I've listened to him in the legislature, and at campaign functions, and he coveys ultra-liberal thoughts and ideas on issues such as taxes, govt spending, etc. Nice, educated man, but his approach and philosophy does not jive with mine. I've listened to him in the legislature, and at campaign functions, and he coveys ultra-liberal thoughts and ideas on issues such as taxes, govt spending, etc. Nice, educated man, but his approach and philosophy does not jive with mine.

]]> By: new_mexican http://newmexicoindependent.com/43395/ortiz-y-pino-says-progressives-need-to-assert-themselves#comment-19129 new_mexican Tue, 22 Dec 2009 23:11:49 +0000 http://newmexicoindependent.com/?p=43395#comment-19129 I agre with Gimmieamilk. I think that when Democrats are in power they have to move to a position a bit left of Center. Ortiz y Pino, by this article, I think is way to far to the left for my taste.. I agre with Gimmieamilk. I think that when Democrats are in power they have to move to a position a bit left of Center. Ortiz y Pino, by this article, I think is way to far to the left for my taste..

]]> By: new_mexican http://newmexicoindependent.com/43395/ortiz-y-pino-says-progressives-need-to-assert-themselves#comment-14124 new_mexican Tue, 22 Dec 2009 22:11:49 +0000 http://newmexicoindependent.com/?p=43395#comment-14124 I agre with Gimmieamilk. I think that when Democrats are in power they have to move to a position a bit left of Center. Ortiz y Pino, by this article, I think is way to far to the left for my taste.. I agre with Gimmieamilk. I think that when Democrats are in power they have to move to a position a bit left of Center. Ortiz y Pino, by this article, I think is way to far to the left for my taste..

]]> By: Phoebe http://newmexicoindependent.com/43395/ortiz-y-pino-says-progressives-need-to-assert-themselves#comment-14120 Phoebe Tue, 22 Dec 2009 21:04:46 +0000 http://newmexicoindependent.com/?p=43395#comment-14120 Perhaps it was an overreaction but I was very disappointed when the chairman of the Santa Fe County Democratic Party was quoted as having said: “There are some people who surprise me with - I almost want to call it their ’star-struck’ approach to this campaign. They were star-struck by Obama and they’re star-struck by Kokesh.” <br>I was in fact furious that after a lot of us worked long and hard to get out the vote, apparently because we were foolish enough to want to see Obama and other Democratic candidates elected to office, Ellenberg had lumped 'some people' like myself in with the likes of the cult followers of Kokesh. <br>If this were a singular example of how the good old boys who run the party treat the 'progressives' who get in their way this comment might have been easier to shrug off, but it isn't and wasn't. Perhaps it was an overreaction but I was very disappointed when the chairman of the Santa Fe County Democratic Party was quoted as having said: “There are some people who surprise me with – I almost want to call it their ’star-struck’ approach to this campaign. They were star-struck by Obama and they’re star-struck by Kokesh.”
I was in fact furious that after a lot of us worked long and hard to get out the vote, apparently because we were foolish enough to want to see Obama and other Democratic candidates elected to office, Ellenberg had lumped 'some people' like myself in with the likes of the cult followers of Kokesh.
If this were a singular example of how the good old boys who run the party treat the 'progressives' who get in their way this comment might have been easier to shrug off, but it isn't and wasn't.

]]> By: GimmieAMilk http://newmexicoindependent.com/43395/ortiz-y-pino-says-progressives-need-to-assert-themselves#comment-14108 GimmieAMilk Tue, 22 Dec 2009 19:11:25 +0000 http://newmexicoindependent.com/?p=43395#comment-14108 I've listened to him in the legislature, and at campaign functions, and he coveys ultra-liberal thoughts and ideas on issues such as taxes, govt spending, etc. Nice, educated man, but his approach and philosophy does not jive with mine. I've listened to him in the legislature, and at campaign functions, and he coveys ultra-liberal thoughts and ideas on issues such as taxes, govt spending, etc. Nice, educated man, but his approach and philosophy does not jive with mine.

]]> By: new_mexican http://newmexicoindependent.com/43395/ortiz-y-pino-says-progressives-need-to-assert-themselves#comment-14091 new_mexican Tue, 22 Dec 2009 13:18:35 +0000 http://newmexicoindependent.com/?p=43395#comment-14091 "contemptuous dismissal of 'progressives' from the chairman of the Santa Fe County Democratic Party,"<br><br>I don't see that in the article. Please elaborate. “contemptuous dismissal of 'progressives' from the chairman of the Santa Fe County Democratic Party,”

I don't see that in the article. Please elaborate.

]]> By: qofdisks http://newmexicoindependent.com/43395/ortiz-y-pino-says-progressives-need-to-assert-themselves#comment-14079 qofdisks Tue, 22 Dec 2009 03:32:27 +0000 http://newmexicoindependent.com/?p=43395#comment-14079 In what way is Gerry too liberal? Can you be more specific? In what way is Gerry too liberal? Can you be more specific?

]]> By: qofdisks http://newmexicoindependent.com/43395/ortiz-y-pino-says-progressives-need-to-assert-themselves#comment-14080 qofdisks Tue, 22 Dec 2009 03:28:25 +0000 http://newmexicoindependent.com/?p=43395#comment-14080 In what way is Ortiz y Pino against Party principles? Anything specific? In what way is Ortiz y Pino against Party principles? Anything specific?

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